October 10, 2003
The Eolution Continues

Theodore from powerSDK has found a very elegant workaround for the upcoming Eolas related IE-Update. Unfortunately you cannot add comments to his blog, so I will add my comments here:

- I've tested the proposal and in order to sastisfy the patent restrictions all you have to remove is the <PARAM name="movie" value="xyz.swf> and the src="xyz.swf" inside the EMBED tag. You can leave all the rest of the OBJECT block in place, wow!

- So the only javascript you will have to use is:
which you should better place behind the OBJECT block inside the HTML code.

- Unfortunately this means that this solution will never work on Macintosh Internet Explorer as it cannot access the OBJECT via javascript.

But anyway - this is definitely a brilliant way to do it. Cheers Theodore!

Posted at October 10, 2003 01:56 PM | Further reading

Thanks for the note. ;) The other required edit is to remove the .cab url specifying the version of the activex control. Any url specifiying remote data cannot be initally contained in the but these can all be set via JS.

I need to add blog comments. ;)



Posted by: Ted Patrick on October 10, 2003 02:17 PM

Are you sure? I tested it without removing and it didn't trigger the alert.

Posted by: Mario Klingemann on October 10, 2003 02:24 PM

The IE test client isn't finished and is supporting the inital spec and is clearly not final. As this is early beta/alpha code, I would lean toward the proposed spec rather than the test client itself. The solution does work, but it may not work later on. The proposal clearly states that information referencing "remote data". I take that to mean urls regardless of what URLs they are. Although the solution works, only time will tell as it is shifting sands. Cheers. Ted ;)

Posted by: Ted Patrick on October 10, 2003 03:14 PM

Well, Ted, if you want to add comments to your blog and want it for free maybe you want to take a look at SnorComments. It's a free Perl script.

Here it's the url:

And if you want to add a spam protection in those comments take a look at:

Posted by: Moises on October 10, 2003 05:17 PM


you are right, that we don't know yet if the final version of IE will show the same behaviour as the beta, but I will stay with my guess that the CODEBASE attribute is not affected by the patent. A quote from the Microsoft page: "If the OBJECT element used to load the control does not contain any child PARAM elements, then Internet Explorer does not prompt the user before loading the control." I read that like it only looks at the PARAM tags, not at the attributes of the OBJECT.

Posted by: Mario Klingemann on October 10, 2003 08:27 PM
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